I can finally talk about this...
⏱ 8 min listen · ~2 min read
Only if you're curious about Glacier itself — this is one extended pitch for Ryan's own app, though the CIA spy-game war stories framing it are genuinely colorful.
Key takeaways
- 01Shawn Ryan traces Glacier to the clunky black phones his CIA team carried while hunting ISIS and the Taliban in the Middle East.
- 02Ryan partnered with the makers of a $10,000 black phone — former NSA and intelligence developers, by his description — to rebuild it as an app called Glacier.
- 03The lead feature in Glacier is burner numbers in any US area code, handed out to stores or campaigns and killed the moment one is sold or abused.
- 04Ryan's own secure DNS had blocked more than 1,300 web trackers by 4 p.m. on the day he recorded the episode.
Chapters
0:00 · Hunting ISIS with a CIA black phone1:16 · From SEAL colleagues to heads of state: the paranoia returns2:33 · $10,000 black phones, turned into an app3:55 · The burner-number feature5:11 · Burning numbers on nonprofits, campaigns and spam6:30 · Secure DNS, 1,300 blocked trackers, foreign-owned VPNs+1 more
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